@Majkel34 Grindelwald był potężniejszy od Voldka

@Cvzx Rowling jasno stwierdza, że Voldemort był najpotężniejszym czarnoksiężnikiem w historii. Grindewald miał większy zasięg tylko. Informacje w lore są jednoznaczne.

Tom Marvolo Riddle (31 December 1926[13] – 2 May 1998), later known as Lord Voldemort or, alternatively as You-Know-Who, He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, or the Dark Lord, was an English half-blood wizard considered to have been the most powerful and dangerous Dark Wizard of all time. He was amongst the greatest wizards to have ever lived

@Majkel34 No nie przecież nawet było mówione ze nikt nie miał takiej mocy jak Grindelwad w prime.

@Cvzx Raczej zasięgu zwolenników.
“Did you know— then?” asked Harry. “Did I know that I had just met the most dangerous Dark wizard of all time? No.”

Pottermore.com, the official website for all things Harry Potter, started and endorsed by Rowling herself, describes Voldemort as "the most powerful dark wizard of all time" on his bio. Even in Goblet of Fire, Voldemort is called "the strongest dark wizard of the century".



Between that and all the evidence on screen and on the page, that settles the debate. The only way Grindelwald wins is if he gets lucky. And Grindelwald is called dark wizard too.



Voldemort can do basically everything with magic. His only weakness is love and all the magic related to love....if people really believe that Grindelwald can beat him in this way, ok.



The only thing Grindelwald did that Voldemort didn't was have more conquered land under his belt. But that's only because Voldemort started with the hardest country first. Also,that period was different and it was a period of war.



Grindelwald only got as far as he did because Dumbledore wouldn't face him until there duel, while he actively worked against Voldemort during his reign (and from what some characters said it sounded like Voldemort was winning) and the book doesn't say that Grindelwald conquered Europe.
To zamyka dyskusję.

@Majkel34 zasięg zwolenników to jedno ale chodzi o sama moc i wiedzę. Voldemort taki potężny ,a nawet nie wiedział o istnieniu insygniów czy o tym że przez przypadek stworzył horkruksa. Grindelwad też walczył z grupa aurorow ,a nie uciekał jak Voldemort

@Majkel34 ale ty wrzucasz jakies stare cytaty gdzie jeszcze postać Grindelwalda nie była prowadzona

@Cvzx Voldemort walczył w pierwszej wojnie. Było mówione, że jest dla nich "nietykalny". Tu nie ma o czym dyskutować. Lore mówi wyraźnie. Jedynym gościem,który mógłby rozwalić Voldemorta jest Dumbledore, który bodajże w "Komnacie tajemnic" sam w to wątpił.
Grindewald?
Gellert Grindelwald (c. 1883 – March 1998) was a wizard who is considered to be among the most dangerous Dark Wizards of all time, second only to Lord Voldemort.[7] A student at Durmstrang Institute, Grindelwald was expelled for twisted, dark experiments and near-fatal attacks on students.

@Majkel34 Prawda jest taka, że nie da się na to odpowiedzieć. Rowling ostatnio zaczęła coraz bardziej omijać kanon. Teraz to i z Grindewalda zrobiła geja. ^^